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dr. pompa:well, hey, it’s dr. pompa here,and not live. we’re actually recording this call because we are shooting, actually, philand i, some amazing shows that you’re going to see in the future. but we are recordingthis show. but i have phil here, which some of you who watched many of the past showsactually know who this gentleman is. phil:and it’s nice to see you again.dr. pompa:yeah, well, i have to always joke
lexapro and weight loss, about this. because i always say my interestin nutrition actually started back when i was a wrestler trying to make sure i justdidn’t lose weight the bad way where you see people cutting calories, right, and they’retrying to get skinny to make a weight. and i said i’m just not going to do that becausei saw those guys lose strength, right, and
it’s, like, i’m not just going to cuta weight class. so i really had no nutrition source exceptmuscle & fitness. it’s like, gosh, these guys are fit, right? so i got muscle & fitness.i even got a subscription, and i started reading all the articles in muscle & fitness. whati didn’t know at that time is most likely i was reading this guy’s articles. he wasgood friends with joe weider at that time. and you not only wrote most of the articlesfor muscle & fitness, you wrote flex magazine. i mean, all the magazines that i read as akid. am i right on that? phil:yes, and in fact, joe weider said, “let’swrite some good articles because dr. pompa is going to be reading it, and he’s goingto become very famous one day.â€
dr. pompa:yeah, that’s it. anyways, butphil actually had the largest fitness radio show. and as a matter of fact, guys, i haveto say this, but we’re doing a radio show together, and he had the largest fitness radioshow in the country. and phil was, i would say, the most famous guy in fitness.phil:so enough about that. dr. pompa:i’m a proud—let’s just keeptalking about you. phil:no, no. let’s talk about…dr. pompa:let’s keep talking about you. phil:we have something important to talk about.dr. pompa:mold, mold is the topic today. phil:yes.dr. pompa:yeah, mold is the topic today. i actually announced it last week, and i saidthis is one of these big ones that we need
to discuss. last week we discussed lyme. andi say it. i’ll repeat. there’s the big three amigos, right? we can’t get rid ofall the chemicals in our life; however, when we get hit with heavy metals, when we gethit with infections, like lyme, even infections from root canals, cavitations, and we gethit with biotoxins from mold, these things shut down detox pathways. they have such adramatic effect on the nerve system that, literally, now we become very sensitive toevery toxin. you know, i just recently… phil:heavy metals, lyme, and mold.dr. pompa:heavy metals, we’ll say heavy metals infection because infection puts outa biotoxin. that’s a toxin produced by a living thing, so root canals, cavitations.i always say, and you probably have heard
me say it to the doctors, if someone’s notgetting well, there’s still something upstream. i just had that happen to a client, probably,two weeks ago. they weren’t getting well, and they weren’t getting well. she had aroot canal that was under a crown. she didn’t know it was there. she got it out, and sincethen, i’ve been getting emails… phil:better and better.dr. pompa:and better, and better, and better, exactly, she’s like—her sensitivitieswent down. even her food sensitivities have changed. she’s actually eating differentfoods now. we haven’t even really started even detoxing the biotoxins out from thatroot canal. but, i mean, so these guys shut things down. but today’s topic is mold,and something—we’re actually in warren
phillips’ house, who you all know, and somethinghappened here the last couple days. phil:there’s a big hole in the ceiling.dr. pompa:there is a big hole in the ceiling. and actually, i would take you out there butthey’re doing a little school activity out there. i’d take you out and actually showyou the hole in the ceiling, but a minor amount of water, phil, leaked. and actually, it wasjust a crack in the ceiling, paint crack they thought, that they were going to fix. andthe gentleman that fixed it said, “oh, this is moist. very little, but it’s moist.â€he put a moisture reader on it, and it was about 50%. but warren immediately said whati would’ve said and you. “open it up,†but he just didn’t have them open it up.phil:and we would appear to be just extreme,
right?dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. phil:why would you do that? it’s just alittle bit of water? dr. pompa:no one would’ve, right? matterof fact, he thought—warren was like, what? you know, it’s just a small amount of water.phil:right. dr. pompa:and then open it up. but no, thisis when he thought warren was very extreme. he said, “no, no, no. do not open it upnow. we’ll bring someone, an expert in.†because they build around it a containmentif you will, right? phil:right, yeah.dr. pompa:where they create something called negative air pressure. so when they open itup, let’s say there was mold, right? we
didn’t—we don’t know at this point,but where there’s water, there’s mold, typically. so when they open it up…phil:it doesn’t contaminate the entire home. dr. pompa:that’s right. the spore, the biotoxinsdon’t contaminate the environment, and believe me, many people even watching this, my clientsmake this mistake all the time. number one, typically you get the aggressive person likemyself, folks. i’ve done this myself. you’ve done it too, right? i got to know. i haveto know if there’s mold there, and i go in. and of course, back then i would be sickfor days. but, you know, so mold, look, it just takes water and some food in a house.phil, typically, what is the food in a house? phil:drywall.dr. pompa:drywall, what’s on the back of
drywall, paper? yeah, so that’s—typically,the cellulose is the food in the paper, and it just feeds. you just add a little water.the mold spores are here, but then we add water. and then here’s the thing, folks.we’re not talking about mold allergies in this show. please, understand. this is biotoxicillness. the mold produces a biotoxin. phil:yeah, i’m glad you said that because…dr. pompa:yeah, because many people don’t get that.phil:yeah, and when i do talk to people, they go, “oh, well, i know someone else who’sallergic to mold.†i go, “no, no. i’m not allergic to mold.â€dr. pompa:yeah. phil:you have to go through the whole explanation.dr. pompa:mold, biotoxin illness, i probably
should refer to it from this point on, isvery serious. i mean, people with biotoxin illness get, i don’t want to say more sick,but almost worse sick than someone with heavy metal poisoning, lyme, very nasty. mold hasa certain fingerprint, has a certain look. and i’ll tell you, when people get sickfrom this, their lives change. matter of fact, i think the only thing that could do thatjustice—and one of the reasons i have you here is you became a mold expert, from thefitness expert to a mold expert. phil:unintentionally, yeah.dr. pompa:i remember the day… phil:i didn’t know that was my path. i didn’tknow this would lead to… dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. i’m sure you didn’t.phil:but you know what? i mean, before we
get into it, i just want to say it led mehere. dr. pompa:yeah. that’s a good thing.phil:so i think the fact that you went through an illness, and i went through an illness,and we came together, it’s going to serve all the people we can help.dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. there’s no doubt. our stories put us here. our stories givea greater purpose, so like you always say, we look forward. not back, right?phil:right. dr. pompa:we’re able to change a world,make a difference, affect so many people watching us. i promise you, there’s many people watchingthis show that have symptoms, whether it’s can’t sleep at night, sensitive to thingsthey were never sensitive, whether it’s
food, chemicals, perfumes.phil:and i think one more frustration of becoming sick from mold or something like it is it’san invisible ailment. so people just tend to look at you and go, you’re stressed.we need a little lexapro. let’s just get you a little xanax, and you’ll be okay.dr. pompa:well, my illness, i—someone close to me said to me once, and i still remember.as you know, that was years ago. just push through it. if i were you, i would just pushthrough it. phil:and you try that. you do.dr. pompa:well, of course, i’m tough. phil:you wake up in the morning, and you goi’m not going to be sick this morning, right? dr. pompa:yeah, so what he was telling mewas i’m not tough enough. he’s so tough.
he would’ve pushed through it.phil:sure. dr. pompa:i’m telling you, i wanted to goacross the room and do something dramatic. let’s just say that, but, yeah, i mean,this is a—it’s what i classify as an unexplainable illness. but most people watching this havesymptoms, and they just don’t know what’s wrong, right? i mean, i promise you, they’vebeen addressing their thyroid like i did. they’ve been addressing their adrenals likei did, which just kinda makes you a little better sometimes, sometimes worse. it’sthis nasty back and forth. what’s going on? my hair’s getting thinner. i’m gainingweight. because that’s one of the symptoms from mold is you lose muscle and gain fat.i mean, go figure. i became skinny fat. you
lost muscle in your process.phil:tremendous amount. dr. pompa:yeah, exactly. it’s a horrifichormonal experience that is not good. but i can tell you this; the answer isn’t chasinghormones, taking more hormones. the answer is, i always say, is find the cause. the problemwith this is people don’t know, right? i mean, there’s four people living in a houseoften times, and one person gets sick. phil:not only people don’t know, peopledon’t want to hear, right? dr. pompa:no, absolutely not.phil:so somebody goes, “oh, yeah, i found some mold behind my cabinets. they’re comingin to clean it up.†you go, “no. get out of the house. just get out of the house. don’tsleep there, all right? let’s get to work.
let’s get it tested.†“no, no, it’sjust a little bit of mold.†dr. pompa:it’s just a little bit of mold,yeah. phil:right.dr. pompa:yeah. phil:it’s only after they have the experiencethat suddenly their interest changes and they go, “tell me about this. how can i get well?â€dr. pompa:yeah. actually, what you said there is a great thing. because, see, we think aboutthat little mildew on the bathroom wall is the mold, and i’ve seen that my whole life.it’s a—look, there’s different types of mold. there’s many, obviously, typesof mold. there’s at least six that are nasty, nasty guys. maybe one you’re familiar withis black mold, stachybotrys, aspergillus,
right? i mean, there’s these nasty…phil:yeah, this is a part of our education. dr. pompa:yeah, exactly. how do we know thesenames? because we fear these guys, right, or these guys beat us up a little bit. look,i want to say this too, and i want you tell your story, but we both became sensitive toour world, multi-chemically sensitive, mcs. i mean, where i was afraid to go outside ofmy space, my safe space. i was afraid to be around…phil:well, let’s talk a little bit about the experience i went through, and then we’llcome back and talk about that. dr. pompa:okay, but let me just say this beforewe get there. i got there via heavy metals. you got there via mold. but we both landedin the same place. we were—couldn’t function
in our world. tell your story because it’sa unique one. phil:there is one more piece of that. youwere very functional. so people expect a lot of you.dr. pompa:perfectly functional. phil:so when you go through this, everybody’slooking at you going come on. just be yourself. just do what you normally do. and that’sa huge part of the frustration is people don’t quite get it. and you don’t know how toexplain it, and the harder you try to explain it, the crazier they start to think you are.dr. pompa:i actually hid it from my family for years, hid it. i just wasn’t showingup at family functions. number one, god forbid i take a cologne hit or i would get sick.even the actual emotional stress of thinking
about getting sick would make me sick. i meanit was like—so i just wasn’t showing up. and my family was, really, what’s wrong?i remember the day i went where i was sitting, where my father was sitting. and i told mydad. and i just started crying. and, i mean, i can’t go—i still can’t go down thisroad. but i started crying, and he said, “what’s wrong?†i said, “dad, i’ve been sick.â€â€œwhat do you mean?†he couldn’t understand it. i mean, number one, i hid it, right? soi’d come over, and put the face on. phil:they can’t understand.dr. pompa:he just never got it. my sister, my one sister never got it, you know?phil:because it’s a little bit like—did you ever see those old movies where aliensland, and they start to take over people’s
bodies? like the invasion of the body snatchers,right? and there’s always one person in the town who knows, and he tries to warn everybody.he goes, “no, don’t go home. your wife is an alien.â€dr. pompa:yeah. phil:and they go, “shut up.†and you becomethat. the more that you try to allow other people into that world, the more they thinkthat you’re in a different world. dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. no doubt about it. andbecause i was a health guy in my family, there was a whole other thing of embarrassment.there was whole other thing of it’s just him being overboard once again, right?phil:right, you start to feel like a hypocrite. dr. pompa:oh, no doubt.phil:because here you are advising people
on health, and…dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. you went through that too. i didn’t put that together, differently,right? it’s like, hypocrite, just being overboard again about his health, right? imean, so there was multiple reasons why i didn’t want anyone to know. and i liveda life, literally, of seclusion and just embarrassment. but anyways, your story, i remember the dayi got the phone call of—someone referred you to me as a client. and i remember hearingyour story, and thinking that’s yet another amazing story, but yet, that i hear all thetime, just differently. phil:right.dr. pompa:but tell the story because i think it is the stories that really capture people,and get people to think.
phil:let me start out by saying i think beforehurricane wilma—and i’ll explain what she has to do with it. before hurricane wilma,my life was as close to perfect as it gets. it really was.dr. pompa:i would say the same about mine. phil:and i don’t know that i appreciatedit then. dr. pompa:i would say the same about me.phil:you know, sometimes you have to lose something to realize how valuable it is. so,i mean, i really had an idealistic life. i mean, i had a beautiful home, and a beautifulwife, and a beautiful little girl, and a tremendous business, and everything was working. i wastravelling around the world doing seminars and appearances.dr. pompa:yeah, you were a famous guy.
phil:life was really, really exciting andfun, and just wonderful, you know. and then there was the year, 2005, in south florida,where three major hurricanes hit. and my wife and, i guess, 1-year-old daughter at thattime stayed there with me through the first two. and we didn’t have major damage, butit’s an inconvenience. your power goes out for three or four days. you can’t get food,and you’re going to have to… dr. pompa:i guess you get used to it livingdown there. phil:well, you don’t, especially when youhave a baby because she’s… dr. pompa:it’s scary.phil:because, poor thing, she’s crying, and she’s uncomfortable, and the humidity,and you don’t have air conditioning. so
anyway, when the third one was coming…dr. pompa:humidity. phil:when the third one was coming, they wentout of town. so i stayed to take care of the house. and the third one was the big one.it was hurricane wilma, and it was like a freight train just going bam, outside thehouse for hours. then you get into the eye of the storm, and it quiets, you know, andyou take a peek outside. dr. pompa:i’ve never been in one.phil:you never want to. dr. pompa:yeah.phil:you never want to. and this was a real one. when i moved to florida, they’d havethese hurricane warnings, and everybody would run to the grocery store, and fight over thelast container of water. and the hurricane
would never come. so you, kinda go, “oh,that’s stupid.†and people would have hurricane parties, but this one really wokepeople up as what the damage is, and why the warnings are there.anyway, the next day, the house was fine. i think we lost a tree and a rooftop, nothingmajor. so i’m happy, you know? i call my wife, and i’m going, “hey, things aregreat. we held up okay.†i’m looking around the neighborhood, and i see stop signs arein the lake. i mean, everything’s blown everywhere, but our house is okay. so nowi do what i would do, of course, is i go check on my office. and i go to my office, whichin total was about 4,500 square feet. half of it was warehouse space. so we were sellingbooks, and nutritional supplements, and programs,
and dvds, and that’s…dr. pompa:the whole thing. phil:the whole thing. and i would walk in,and there’s no roof. dr. pompa:well, i guess that was quite shocking.phil:no roof. but here’s the shocking part. that wasn’t even the shocking part. i’mstunned because i’m standing in my building and i’m seeing the sky, but every singlepaper was right where i left it. dr. pompa:that’s amazing.phil:nothing had moved. dr. pompa:how is that even possible?phil:i had radio show equipment and computer equipment.dr. pompa:i mean, how is that even possible? phil:i didn’t know. somebody explained itto me afterwards, and i guess what happened
is, after the rains, a tornado came down thestreet. so the rains came first, and then my roof left, right?dr. pompa:ahh. phil:again, i feel like, oh, i am so luckybecause imagine what could’ve happened, right? so we get one of those big blue tarps,and we throw it up over the building. and the following day there’s a major tropicalstorm. the tarp washes in, and the waterline was four feet from the floor, four feet ofwater in my warehouse, in my building. so when i walked in the following day, i mean,i was in tears. you know, i was—it was just—it was horrible because everything i had workedto build is suddenly ruined. dr. pompa:i can’t imagine.phil:and i thought that was the bad part.
i didn’t realize. that wasn’t the badpart. so i called my attorney because i didn’t own the space. i was renting the space. andhe said to me, “phil, get out of that building, and never go back.†i said, “what? areyou crazy? i mean, this is my business. this is my livelihood.â€dr. pompa:trust me. for him to say that—he must’ve seen something before for him tosay that because who would say that? phil:he no longer takes mold cases becausethey’re too emotionally defeating to him. dr. pompa:yeah. i believe that. i know that.yeah. yeah. phil:yeah. so get out of that building, andi didn’t listen. i didn’t. and this is why…dr. pompa:and most wouldn’t.
phil:most wouldn’t, and this is why i hopethat those people who you pointed to before and you said somebody’s watching…dr. pompa:watching, yeah. phil:i hope they’re listening enough toget the “aha†and go maybe this is not excessive. maybe this is not paranoia. maybethere’s something real to this. because i could’ve prevented the entire next phaseof my life had i left the building. dr. pompa:yeah.phil:but i was stubborn, and i was determined. i said, “no, no, i’m going to fix it.we’ve got the landlord’s insurance is going to cover it.†so for the next fewmonths—and keep in mind, south florida is in disarray. so a lot of contractors are showingup from different parts of the country with
their ladders and their trucks.dr. pompa:cash only. phil:you’re paying them cash, and—yeah.so they’d come in, and they would tear out my rotting drywall, and they ripped out mycarpet. and they started to just dismember my entire office, just leaving the framing.and i was in that building every day supervising this. then they start to rebuild, so now differentcontractors are coming. these guys are professionals. matter of fact, they’re professional enoughthat they had masks on. dr. pompa:masks on, yeah, smart.phil:yeah. yeah. the first group, they didn’t. they would just, you know, let me tear outyour drywall. give me money. but this group, they knew what they were doing, and they camewith their masks. now, a part of my 4,500
square feet was the personal training studio,1,200 square foot personal training studio. that’s what i wanted fixed first becausei had trainers who worked for me, and i wanted them to generate revenue.dr. pompa:sure. phil:and so let’s fix this first. then we’llworry about the rest. so i’m in that building now as they’re doing the work, bringingin new carpet, new drywall, new mirrors, everything with glue and paint. i’m in there workingout. not just in the building, but now i’m, like, sucking in. so the office looked incredible.better than ever. dr. pompa:but you thought you were being healthy.there’s another side to that story. phil:yeah, right. the office looked fantastic.in fact, i was thankful. i was like, this
is great. everything is brand new. and theni started developing a cough. and it wasn’t a little cough, and it wasn’t like a coughi ever knew before. it would come at—it would suddenly affect me. it wasn’t likei was coughing all day, but in a moment, i would start to cough, and it would knock meoff my feet, literally. i mean, i was on the ground. i couldn’t stop coughing, and itfelt like my lungs were going to just come out of my mouth, and then, after a while itwould subside. and i started to feel like it happens wheni’m in the office. so i thought maybe there’s something in the office that’s affectingme. but none of my other employees were sick. so this is where you start to become the detective.dr. pompa:yeah, right.
phil:what could this be? so i started by goingto a doctor who said, “go see an allergist. clearly you’re allergic to something.â€so i went to an allergist, and they told me i’m allergic to cats and dust. i said, “idon’t think that’s my problem. i really don’t.â€dr. pompa:yeah, been around cats and dust my whole life.phil:yeah, i mean, if a thousand cats showed up in my office, i’d go maybe this is it.if dusty cats were there, i’d—but no. this clearly wasn’t the answer. so he goes,“you better go to a pulmonologist.†so that’s where the odyssey began is from doctorto doctor a bunch. so i go to a pulmonologist. dr. pompa:i hear this story all the time,all the time.
phil:oh, yeah. the pulmonologist, a very niceguy, easily diagnoses me, emphysema, and i laughed.dr. pompa:there must be a drug for that. that’s good. that’s good.phil:there is a drug. dr. pompa:all right, great.phil:so i said, “listen, i don’t have emphysema.†“well, you’re testing asif you have emphysema.†i said, “but i was riding my bike 20 miles just a few weeksago. people with emphysema don’t do that. i don’t have emphysema.â€dr. pompa:oh, there’s a cause. were you dealing with asbestos? were you smoking cigarettesmost of your life? were you doing any of those things?phil:no.
dr. pompa:no. did he ever ask?phil:no. actually, you do fill out a questionnaire that i don’t know if they ever even lookat. dr. pompa:no.phil:no. dr. pompa:of course not, no.phil:so he gives me two inhalers. and one was a steroid, a corticosteroid, and the otherwas albuterol. so i left his office, and as soon as i had one of those coughing attacks,i did the albuterol, and i said i’m never doing this again. and i threw them both away.i mean, i just hated the way it made me feel. dr. pompa:yeah, of course.phil:but most of all, i knew he was wrong. i knew it wasn’t emphysema. i knew therewas something else, but nobody could tell
me what it was. so from doctor, to doctor,to doctor, to doctor, on and on and on, and finally, i end up in a major medical institutioneveryone’s heard of. dr. pompa:by the way, you’re relating tomost people watching this show right now, the doctor, to doctor, to doctor. wonderingwhat’s going on, trying different medications. matter of fact, most of these people havetried just about every supplement out there on the market too.phil:well, you know what’ really—what was kind of frustrating for me is, at thetime, i was very present on south florida television, and i had a radio show. so thedoctors knew me, and they would befriend me. and they would start to ask me fitness questions.and suddenly, it’s my buddy. and i would
go in there in. i’m coming to you as anexpert. can’t you—they didn’t have the answer.dr. pompa:no, of course not. phil:they really didn’t have the answer.they only had what was in their box, right? so the pulmonologist looks at the lung.dr. pompa:by the way, that’s why one of our goals is train doctors around the countrywith the answer of how we got our lives back, you know.phil:right. dr. pompa:we went through it for a reason,you know. â it’s like, there is—most doctors don’t know on both sides of the aisle, alternativeand allopathic. they don’t know. there is an answer. there is a way out. go ahead.phil:so i wind up in a major medical institution,
and i’m in there for three days. becauseat this point, oh, probably eight months post that first cough, i have severe tremors. i’msitting on my hands all the time because they’re shaking all over the place. i could not pickup a glass off of a table. i would slowly take two hands because my hands would tremble.dr. pompa:it sounds like a neurodegenerative disease.phil:yes. i couldn’t speak. i stuttered. now, my livelihood, in part, was speaking,you know? and i had to cancel appearances. i cancelled an appearance. i was supposedto be in italy doing a presentation, couldn’t talk.dr. pompa:wow. phil:i was also having trouble keeping mybalance.
dr. pompa:yeah.phil:what’s amazing to me when i think back is i didn’t get depressed. i think mostpeople do, and most people would. but just knowing about the body’s ability to heal,i just felt like i haven’t found the right doctor yet, right?dr. pompa:yeah. phil:so now i’m excited. i’m at this institution.they’re going to give me the answer. and i remember, after the three days of evaluation,and brain scans, and mris… dr. pompa:at this point, did you think aboutthis building at all? phil:no.dr. pompa:okay, go ahead. phil:no. i’m sitting across from the neurologist,the head of neurology, and he’s looking
at his computer. not even looking at me. andhe’s typing. and he goes, “well, phil, you have parkinson’s.†just like that.“well, phil, you have parkinson’s.†and i have to tell you, nothing ever stungme like that in my life. and then he looked at me, almost surprised, because he must’veseen the look on my face. dr. pompa:ah, yeah.â phil:and he goes, “oh, don’t worry. you could have a good quality of life formany years. there are medications for that.†that was his…dr. pompa:that’s unbelievable. yeah. that is unbelievable.phil:yeah. yeah. so that was a bad moment, and that was a bad day. and i’ll tell youthis. emotionally, the only image that kept
coming up in my mind is my daughter comingto feed her trembling dad sitting in a wheelchair drooling. because that’s—when you thinkof parkinson’s, that’s where it’s going, right?dr. pompa:absolutely. phil:and it broke my heart for a day. thefollowing day i woke up, and i just—i don’t know where the thought came from, but i said,okay, one of two things. either i’m going to find michael j. fox, i’m going to doeverything i can to learn, and to study, and to raise money, and to create awareness, ormaybe the doctor was wrong. the pulmonologist was wrong. the allergist was wrong. maybethe doctor was wrong. dr. pompa:i have to say that, though. i mean,for you to make that transition in a day to
i’m either going to make a difference ormaybe they’re wrong. i mean, who does that? i mean, you’re in what i call a 3% rightoff the bat. i mean, most people would’ve just been devastated. i mean, if not the restof their life, satisfied with the diagnosis, either way. devastated or satisfied.phil:and by the way, if i accepted the diagnosis, i’d be living my life on medication believingthat, and i’d have every symptom. dr. pompa:no doubt. yeah, absolutely and believeme. this happens. people come to me years on medications, and i’m looking at it goingi don’t even think this is what you have, right? because they’re lumped into thiscategory based on symptoms and it happens all the time. neurotoxic illness is alwayslumped into something else, whether it’s
ms, depression. i mean, i can go down thelist, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia. we like to label things. and then if we labelit, now we can give a medication for it, and live happily ever after. you didn’t satisfywith that. phil:that doctor gave me an anti-tremor medication.dr. pompa:of course, yeah. phil:and he gave me a beta blocker.dr. pompa:yeah. phil:and, of course, i never even filled theprescriptions. dr. pompa:once we label it, now we can giveyou something. so welcome to the medical model in this country.phil:oh, and by the way, anybody who’s been through this will know this. i didn’t knowit beforehand, but every time you’re given
a prescription, there’s a code attached.your insurance report records that code. so if you looked at my insurance report, i haveparkinson’s. i mean, i have everything that they ever diagnosed me with, but i don’t.dr. pompa:now what do we do with the insurance though today.phil:i lost my insurance. i managed to get another policy, but i did lose my insurancethat i had. dr. pompa:did you—you probably had to provelike crazy that this was a false diagnosis? phil:i was never able to prove it.dr. pompa:wow, another subject for another day. wow. i mean…phil:yeah, i mean, that became a fulltime job, and then, finally, i just said, you know,i’ll figure out another way.
dr. pompa:anyways, go ahead because there’sso much more. phil:so it continued to go on, frustration,question. i started to read voraciously. i would call every expert i knew and asked themwho the experts are. and i really just set out to understand what’s going on. but inthe meantime, life was really hard. even, i would miss my exit all the time. i mean,we call it brain fog. dr. pompa:brain fog, yeah.phil:but people expect to you to perform the way you always did it, and your brain justdoesn’t respond. dr. pompa:no, no, no, exactly. yeah.phil:and then they think—another weird thing is i guess my face started to reflect frustrationbecause i’m trying to think, and i can’t
think. i remember curly from the three stoogessaid it, “i’m trying to think, but nothing’s happening.â€dr. pompa:well, did you try this? phil:i didn’t try that. no, i needed somebodyelse. i needed moe, knucklehead. dr. pompa:that’s when people start going,“are you okay?†and you want to say, “no. i’m not.â€phil:here’s really—and i’ll say this to anybody who knows somebody who sufferingwith this, is people go, “oh, i don’t want to bother him.†because i guess thelook of frustration may be anger, so they would distance, you know? so you feel veryisolated at that point. so you’re trying to perform at a level that you’re not capable,and you feel like nobody’s throwing you
a rope, you know? so that’s a difficultpart. and then i was invited to record a tv show,and i really didn’t want to do it. but the truth is, i needed the money, and i thought,okay, let me get back to some kind of normalcy. so we went to chicago for the shoot, and theshoot went okay considering everything. and then after the shoot, they took me to a restaurant,and i whacked myself in the tooth and chipped my tooth with the wine glass, we were toasting,because i didn’t have control, you know? dr. pompa:right, yeah.phil:and then i left there, and i went to the airport.dr. pompa:by the way, he had a neurological illness, right? it wasn’t parkinson’sin the end. it wasn’t ms. it wasn’t a
neurodegenerative…phil:it was a curable one. dr. pompa:that’s right. it was neurotoxicmediated illness is really what it was. same one i had. different start but our storiesend very similar. go ahead. phil:our stories haven’t ended yet.dr. pompa:yeah, that’s great. exactly, yeah. phil:i wind up walking into a beam in theairport and knocking myself unconscious. so i open my eyes. there’s a circle of peoplearound me. i didn’t even know what happened, but this is kind of the odd way that thingsfall into place. so after that, they’re offering to take me to a hospital, and i go,“no, no, i’m okay. i’m okay.†because i know the hospital won’t help me. i’dbeen there. you know? they don’t understand
what’s wrong. they think you’re crazy.so i said, “no, no, just let me be,†and i missed my flight. so i’m sitting therewaiting for another flight, and i start talking to a woman who tells me that her father isa doctor of eastern and also western medicine. and she saw what happened. so we’re talkinga little bit about it, and i start to tell her what’s going on. and she calls her father,who suggests that i get a book called “mold warriors.â€dr. pompa:oh, man. i read that book. it scares the hell out of you that book.phil:so i order the book, fedex overnight, and it’s written by dr. ritchie shoemakerand a dr. schaller. now ritchie shoemaker was in maryland in a small town.dr. pompa:schaller’s in florida.
phil:schaller was in florida directly acrossalligator alley from me. so i was like, okay, i’m going to go see schaller. and i’lljust say it wasn’t a good experience. you become the victim, and doctors who are notethical have the ability to make money at your expense. so i called ritchie shoemaker.i called his office, and i called like at 5:02. not intentionally, but his staff hadjust left, and he answered the phone. and i said, “dr. shoemaker, i just have to askyou a question. if i come to you, will i get the same treatment i got from dr. schaller?â€and then we started talking, and he asked me what the treatment was, and he said, “no.if you come to me, we’ll figure out what’s going on. i will get you well.†that wasall i needed to hear. so i headed up to pocomoke
city, md, and he put me through tests, andevery single test.â every measure of a biomarker, the visual contrast test, all of the thingsthey do to get clues to stack them up to go, “yes, you have mold toxicity,†[claps]i had it, so—and you know ritchie shoemaker… dr. pompa:can i just—for the benefit ofthem because there’s people out there going how do i know, right? one of the fastest,easiest ways that we deal—all the doctors that i train, 60 in total around the country,they all have a visual contrast sensitivity test. it’s called a vcs test. it’s, literally,a five minute test that we look at contrast of vision. look, these toxins, these biotoxinsfrom mold, from lyme, they affect nerves. well, the one nerve we can test is the opticnerve.
phil:the optic nerve.dr. pompa:right, it’s very sensitive, and you lose—we don’t look at acuity. so we’renot looking at how well you see. we’re looking at contrast. so that’s one of the screeningtools. and then there’s some other blood work that we do that can also be an indicator.one is c4a, etc., etc. but anyway, so you had the test done.phil:i had the test done, and he said to me… dr. pompa:and you don’t have parkinson’s.phil:“you don’t have parkinson’s.†and i jumped off the table, and i hugged him.dr. pompa:did you kiss him? phil:i didn’t kiss him. i hugged him, andyou know dr. shoemaker. dr. pompa:i do know him.phil:he’s not a touchy, feely kind of guy.
dr. pompa:nah, no, no.phil:so he’s standing there like, “what are you doing? nobody’s ever hugged me becausei told them they had mold sickness.†i’m like, “yeah, but you just told me i don’thave parkinson’s.†dr. pompa:yeah, exactly. yeah. yeah.phil:you just put my life back on a good track. so i love ritchie shoemaker. i mean, i knowmany people find him difficult. dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah, exactly.yeah. phil:i remember that moment.dr. pompa:i would love the guy who told me i didn’t have parkinson’s.phil:yeah, it was the opposite of what i experienced with that neurologist, right? suddenly, somebodygave me a real answer. now here’s the beautiful
thing. he gave me a medication called cholestyramine,which you’re familiar with. dr. pompa:mm-hmm. yep. it’s an old cholesterolmedication. phil:ten days later, i’m working out. i’mplaying basketball. i’m riding my bike. i’m ready to book seminars again, ten days,because somebody accurately diagnosed it and had a treatment for it.dr. pompa:wow. yeah, i mean, and what the cholestyramine does, folks, is it—literally,it doesn’t even leave the gut. it’s an old cholesterol medication that pulls thebile out of the body, which pulls cholesterol out of the body, which they don’t even useit for that anymore. but what it does is the—in the bile, are these biotoxins, right? so they’rereleased from the cell to the liver where
they’re bound up into bile. and by the way,this is the way most toxins, you know, what happens, right? in the bile, the bile is released,dropped into the gut to digest fat, but it brings with it the toxin.phil:right. dr. pompa:but the problem is, in the lowerintestine, it’s designed to reabsorb the bile so it doesn’t have to recreate it,and it brings the toxin back to the liver. it’s called autointoxication. so the cholestyraminesits in there as a catcher’s mitt, and just pulls the biotoxin out of the body. so youdon’t reabsorb. phil:you know, the biotoxin is a living organism.dr. pompa:that’s right. phil:so when a living organism moves intoyour body, it says, wow. this is a great place
to live. let’s make babies, right? so itcolonizes. dr. pompa:in the mycotoxin, right, i mean,the—some of the spore actually can do that, right? but these biotoxins are, literally,toxins produced by a living thing. phil:right.dr. pompa:yeah, nasty stuff. go ahead. you wanted to finish the story.phil:so well, there’s a whole other part of the story.dr. pompa:well, let’s just fast forward. you became—okay, so feels better.phil:i got well. dr. pompa:mm-hmm.phil:until… dr. pompa:there you go.phil:i went through a separation with my then
wife.dr. pompa:mm-hmm. phil:and moved into a new apartment. it wasprobably the fourth or fifth day. i was in the apartment because i just got all new furniture,and i was actually very excited. and my now ex-wife and i had a great relationship. wejust knew we shouldn’t be together. dr. pompa:right, mm-hmm.phil:my daughter lived nine miles away, so i’d pick her up all the time. and probablyfourth day, i come home in a very good mood. i open the door, and i was attacked by theshower curtain. now i know this is where i say people quit and think i’m crazy.dr. pompa: i just had a vision of chris farley, but anyways.phil:i walked through the door.
dr. pompa:did you fall on your face?phil:i could have. i did that at the airport. and suddenly, the smell of the shower curtainbecame so overwhelming i thought i was going to pass out.dr. pompa:i know this feeling. i know this. yeah.phil:and i’m thinking, what’s going on? is my shower curtain on fire? like, why wouldit—so i run upstairs, and i can—i don’t know how i knew what the smell was, but youknow, when you open a new shower curtain, you’ll have that smell?dr. pompa:oh, yeah. phil:it was so overwhelming. i held my breath.i got a plastic bag, and i stuffed the shower curtain into the bag, and i threw it in thetrash, and put it in the garage. i just couldn’t
stand it.dr. pompa:do you remember the steve martin movie where he thought it was the cans? rememberthey were shooting at steve martin, the jerk? phil:the jerk. yeah. yeah.dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. the can, he says, “it’s these cans,†and he was getting rid of allthe cans. so you thought it’s these shower curtains.phil:yeah. dr. pompa:these things are evil.phil:right. dr. pompa:that’s funny.phil:the following morning i get up, and i go have some breakfast. and i open up thedishwasher, and the smell of the dishwasher detergent almost knocked me off my feet.dr. pompa:so now you’re getting rid of all
dishwashers. for goodness sakes, it’s thesedishwashers and these shower curtains. phil:right. shower curtains and dishwashersare my enemy. dr. pompa:that’s it.phil:but then it became farther reaching. and then it would be perfumes and paints,and everywhere i went, i’d kind of sniff first. is it safe to go in here? and i wouldsay to other people, “don’t you smell that?†and they’d go, “no.†and someperfumes that smell good to most people smelled so horrible. i don’t even have a way todescribe it. dr. pompa:to this day, i do not like—eventhough i’m not sensitive to it anymore, if i smell it i’m like aww. i don’t like.phil:yeah, right. so it became…
dr. pompa:so you became sensitive to the worldnow all of a sudden. phil:yep.dr. pompa:certain aspects you felt better, right?phil:i didn’t have parkinson’s. and i want to tell you. that allowed me to alwaysfeel better, right? dr. pompa:right.phil:whatever i was dealing with, i would put it next to that, you know? and i’d go,okay, well, i have a problem with shower curtains, but i don’t have parkinson’s, right?dr. pompa:yeah, absolutely. so, great, moved out of the moldy situation, got the biotoxinout of the body, so r1, you got rid of your source. you weren’t getting exposed anymore.we always say you have to get rid of your
source, and get the stuff out of your body.so you did that. but now you’re walking around going what is going on? i’m sensitiveto the world. phil:and i’m also, where do i go?dr. pompa:yeah, where do i go? phil:because it reached the point that i couldn’tlive in that apartment. so now it’s the apartment. now i realize it’s the apartmentthat’s bad. i’ll move to a different one. and, well, you know this.dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. phil:and this is going to sound…dr. pompa:crazy, but… phil:bizarre. i had moved since then 13 times.dr. pompa:yeah, just trying to find a safe environment. when we spoke on the phone thevery first time, i said, phil, number one…
phil:and i had just built a new house at thattime. dr. pompa:yeah. and i said nothing will workuntil you find a safe environment, meaning air quality. no massive exposure to toxins.phil:well, i did. you know what? before i met you, i did find a safe environment becausei moved, and i moved again. dr. pompa:you felt much better.phil:and i found a great place, and my life came back in every way. i might’ve evenbeen at my best ever at that time because i was happy in—to bring my daughter to myplace and feel safe, and lay on the couch and watch tv. it just felt normal again. andthen when things came back to normal, the money started coming in, and my business wasthriving, and i said i’m going to build
a houseâ then, and i’m going to be smartabout it. i’m going to use non-voc stuff, but i was naã¯ve. i didn’t realize. so ibuilt a beautiful home, and i moved in there with my daughter. and i lived in there forfour years, but they were four difficult years because i was challenged. every single smellbothered me. so i went through a process, and said, look,i built the house. i’m not going to move. i’m going to beat this thing. so i startedpaying people to help me figure out how to make the house safe. so i put in ultravioletlights in the air conditioning unit. i baked the walls, which i was told to do. turn thetemperature up to 180 degrees. i tried everything that was told to me as a solution for thehouse.
no longer am i working on me. now i’m workingon the house. i’ve got an air exchange unit. and the truth is, after four years, not oneof them really made a difference. i had 17 air purifiers in the house, nothing. becauseyou buy one and then it didn’t do the job. and people go, “oh, well, that’s becauseyou need the one with 25 pounds of carbon,†so then you buy that one.dr. pompa:get that one. yeah. phil:you become a collector of air purifiers.dr. pompa:well, the house was just putting out too much.phil:and then i met you, and we had a few conversations. and then i remember. you camedown to florida to speak at one of my events. dr. pompa:yeah.phil:and i said, “dr. pompa, when you come
to florida, i want you to come to my housebecause i want you to help me fix it,†right? so you walked in the house, and i’m expectingyou to go, “oh, you just have to do this, and you have to do that.†and do you rememberwhat you said? dr. pompa:attic.phil:you said there’s attic air coming in. dr. pompa:attic air, yeah, it’s that smell.it’s formaldehyde. it’s just from the wall.phil:and it’s also the new house smell. most people would go, “oh, it smells likea new house,†right? dr. pompa:yeah, no, i said attic. this is—isaid you can’t live in here. because it’s that smell that when you go up in your attic,you smell. well, what does that mean? the
house was being—under positive pressure,so the walls, attic air in between air walls were coming into the space.phil:right. dr. pompa:so we have to positively pressurizethe house, which you tried, couldn’t get it done because it was just too much.phil:the load was too great. dr. pompa:the load was too great, yeah. butso you left the house. phil:so i left the house, and then…dr. pompa:and 13 others. phil:i found a doctor, who you know, in dallaswho is renowned as the multiple chemical sensitivityexpert. dr. pompa:right.phil:so, here i go. this is the expert. and naã¯vely, i would go in believing the expertwill fix me, you know? through this whole
process i keep going, well, the next one willknow. so now i go to this expert, and they have designated housing for the people whocome there. and it’s an old residence inn. but they gutted the whole place, and theymade it what they call safe. and i remember. i went to check in.it looks like a residence inn, and i said, “hey, phil kaplan, i’m checking in.â€and the girl looks, and she goes, “oh, no.†and i go, “what’s the matter?†she goes,“they made a mistake.†i said, “what do you mean?†she goes, “they put youin building 7.†i said, “what’s building 7?†and she goes, “you don’t want togo to building 7.†i’m like, “well, what is it?†she goes,“that’s where the sick people go.†i
go, “the patients of this doctor?†“yeah.â€i go, “i’m one of them.†she goes, “no, you’re not.†i go, “yeah, i’m tellingyou.†dr. pompa:yeah. you tell her…phil:so i go to this building, and you see eyes peeking out through the windows. they’rechecking out who is this person? there was a woman who was giving me a bit of a tour,and she shows me there’s a laundry room, and giving me the rules. we can’t use scenteddetergent. we can’t use fabric softeners. and there’s a man in there, and he’s staringat me, backed up all the way into the corner, and i’m thinking what it—why am i sendingit out? dr. pompa:it wasn’t just your big physiquethat scared him?
phil:it was my cellphone. i was holding mycellphone. that’s the first time i stepped into that subculture.dr. pompa:that world, yeah. phil:yes.dr. pompa:it’s a subculture, yeah. and we’re actually—we want to do a show on it.phil:yeah. and these are people who have just retreated. they found a word that they liveby, and that’s avoidance, right? they’re affected by chemicals. they’re really toxic.dr. pompa:well, it makes sense, right? this makes me feel bad. let me get away from allof that. phil:right.dr. pompa:it doesn’t work, however. phil:yeah, as a matter of fact, i think itperpetuates the continued degeneration because
emotions play a huge part of this.dr. pompa:that’s right. yeah, and it’s kind of confusing. and i wish we had moretime. if we can get you—next week we’re talking about how to make a home safe. andwe’re going to have warren phillips on, but maybe we should bring you back on. it’sjust a lack of time. but, you know, i want you to say a little bit about that. the showthat we want to do is, really, are these just crazy people who get sick, or are they sickpeople who become crazy? phil:that’s the question.dr. pompa:yeah, that is the question, right? but you and i really believe—because wewere these people, right? phil:we know they are sick people.dr. pompa:yeah. they were sick people who
became crazy because we dealt with it too.at one point, i kept asking my wife, “am i just crazy?†because i knew i had becamecrazy. i did. i knew it wasn’t normal. phil:and by the way, going through the processof getting well, there are many tears. it’s multi-factorial. there’s not one thing todo. there is not a one thing to do. dr. pompa:no, no, and i really want to emphasizethat. phil:must you change the way you eat? absolutely.dr. pompa:absolutely. phil:must you change your environment? withouta question. dr. pompa:absolutely, yeah.phil:but you also have to change your neuro wiring.dr. pompa:that’s right.
phil:which is an entire show in itself.dr. pompa:absolutely. phil:and that was a huge lesson for me. andi also think that my optimism, and i don’t know if that is developed or inherit, it reallykept me in the normal world. because when i see these other people who have retreated…dr. pompa:that’s not working. phil:and at first, as you would, i wantedto help them. i wanted to go, no, but look at me. i’m functioning. i can go into themall. i know how you feel, but i can go into the mall.dr. pompa:mm-hmm, yeah. phil:they’re afraid of lightbulbs.dr. pompa:right. phil:do you know what i’m saying? i metone woman. she had all her teeth pulled out,
a young woman, 36 years old.dr. pompa:yeah, because one root canal’s bad, let’s get rid of all of them. yeah.phil:thirty-six years old, she has no teeth. she’s got a shaved head because she can’tuse any hair products. your heart breaks for these people, but i also realized i can’tbe around them because they suck you into their world.dr. pompa:yeah. no, they’ll pull you into that world. so let me give them some thingsbecause there’s people out there going, gosh, what you said, what do you do? and ihave to just give the analogy. because part of this—this is not a psychological illness,but part of it is rewiring the nervous system, right? so here’s the analogy i can giveyou to help make sense of this. if a lion
walked into the room right now, what wouldhappen to us? our adrenaline would go up. our…phil:fight or flight. dr. pompa:fight of flight. we would literallydrive inflammation process in the body, although, temporary, as long as the lion goes away.but when this happens again and again, the body’s just driving this chemical responsethat makes you feel sick, ultimately. makes you not feel right. i mean, so the chemical,we get this massive exposure, and the body drums up this reaction that neurologicallyrelease this, release that, release this. it’s protecting itself. just like the lionwalking in. the problem is the threat goes away. we get a sniff of a chemical, and itreleases the same response.
phil:and it becomes habitual.dr. pompa:and it becomes this habitual neurological thing that the body doesn’t even rationallygo through to say, okay, it’s not dangerous. it’s just fabric softener. although, fabricsoftener is very deadly, i believe, and no one should use it. but the body should go,okay, we can deal with this appropriately. we’re not going to die. but it literallyknows how it felt before. it knows that its bucket was full, can’t deal with one moretoxin, phil or dan, so i’m going to setup every defense mechanism.phil:i want to tell you how important overcoming that was for me. because you don’t realizethat, right? dr. pompa:yeah. yeah.phil:you smell the smell, and you feel the
fear, and you don’t realize that wiringin your brain is linking those up and it really… dr. pompa:so you really do feel bad, you know?phil:you do, but what you don’t realize is you have the power to break that link.dr. pompa:sure. phil:and when you break the link, the feargoes away, and the fear response goes away, and suddenly, the chemical doesn’t affectyou acutely. dr. pompa:release, yeah. i always say, well,if you’ve got pet lions, eventually, you go, oh, they’re not eating me.phil:right. they’re nice lions. dr. pompa:yeah. yeah. when those lions comein, you’re like, it’s a lion, but yet, i’m not releasing the same chemicals. well,you kind of have to do that with chemicals.
they’re nice lions. we’ve got to put it—andagain, here’s the difference. i started the show by saying the three amigos, right?phil:mm-hmm. dr. pompa:the big boys, the three big boys,the heavy metals, the mold, and the infections, whether it’s lyme disease, these root canals,that these toxins are nasty. these guys are bad. i mean, the bible talks about pestilence,and how nasty they are. it talks about mold in leviticus 14, and how to get rid of it.and heavy metals, my gosh, mercury is considered the god of deception. i mean, these guys arenasty. we can’t avoid every chemical, all right? we can’t avoid everything. all thefabric softener all the… phil:not in the world we live in today.dr. pompa:right, but these big guys are very
overwhelming to your nervous system. theyalmost set off these nasty neurological patterns, right? it happened to you. it happened tome differently. let us respond to every single drop of minute particle of chemical to whereour nervous system reacted the same as if it were mold, as if it’s a mercury poisoning.so yes, we have to get of it. we have to put ourselves in a safe environment because wecan’t have chronic exposure, right? no chemical chronically is good. no stressor chronicallyis good. but we should be able to take the little stressors.phil:right. dr. pompa:whether it’s a chemical or whetherit’s upset, get away from it. but chronic exposures, they setup these neurological pathways,right? we want our environment—r1, let’s
make our environment safe. but part of r1too is getting the stuff out of the body. you had said that the cholestyramine whenyou took it for ten days actually did something, right?phil:yes. dr. pompa:okay, let me—i just want to bringthem to something that i do all the time. i talk about true cellular detox™, and ihope you can see that. let me get the right angle on that. okay, that’s the cell, right?so what we do is the 5r’s, we start to get these pathways in the cell right, and that’swhat the 5r’s does. now what happens? it’ll start to release these toxins, most of whichend up in our downstream detox pathways, whether it’s the kidney or whether it’s the liver.so i just drew a really bad liver, but we’re
going to call that liver. i better—thatone’s so bad i better label it. phil:chopped liver.dr. pompa:okay, or it could dump into the kidneys, which if i drew these little guysover here. okay, so these are the pathways from the cell to the downstream detox pathways.but let’s just focus on the liver for a second. because we talked about the bile,right? so in the liver, you make something called bile. what happens is the toxins bindup to this bile complex. and eventually, bile is used to digest fat. so i’m going to drawthe intestines, or i’ll say the gut down here. from the gut, we know that ultimately,hopefully, it leaves our body. so these toxins are bound up in the liverto bile. then they’re eventually dumped
with the bile to digest, obviously, and theyend up in here. but here’s the problem. they work their way through the intestines,and in the lower intestine, bile is meant to be reabsorbed back to, whoops, i almostwent too far, back to the liver because it doesn’t want to recreate it. so it bringsit back to the liver. but what does it bring with the bile, the toxins? so these biotoxinslike the mold that he got exposed to end up going from the gut back to the liver backto the bowel complex back to the gut. this is called autointoxication.what did the cholestyramine do? it’s a cholesterol medication. actually, it’s resin. it’sactually a binding agent. that’s it. it doesn’t even leave the gut. when we putthat down here as a catcher’s mitt—now
we use a natural product. we use somethingcalled bind, b-i-n-d. bind does the same thing as cholestyramine. it sits in here as a catcher’smitt. so when the toxins attached to the bile are dumped in the gut, they’re caught bythe catcher’s mitt so you don’t autointoxicate. this is part of what i call true cellulardetox™, phil. we have to get the cell working. 5r’s helps us that. and then we use truebinders. and in the case of heavy metals, we use different binders, right, because mostpeople—and you know i love to say this. corella, it’s the metal magnet, and cilantro,and all these ten-day cleanses, colon cleanses, all of those things are too far downstream.we use coffee enemas to help dump that often times, but it’s too far downstream. it’snot up at the cell.
you can use different things to assist thekidneys, and even a colon cleanse that helps move things out of the colon, but ultimately,it starts at the cell. you’ve got to get the cell well. get these toxins down and out.bind them so you don’t reabsorb them. that’s true cellular detox™.phil:and by the way, this is the lesson that most doctors have never sat through.dr. pompa:that’s true. phil:and that’s why when you go to a doctor—they’renot bad people, right? dr. pompa:no.phil:and they have good intentions. but they’ve worked in the model of let’s diagnose andmedicate. so whatever symptoms are screaming the loudest are the ones we want to suppress,and that’s the way they approach things
within their own system. so this is what peopleneed. and not only the people watching, but the medical field as well.dr. pompa:oh, sure. it works. that’s what saved my life. but you know you said it right,though. it is a part of a true—it’s a step-by-step system. make your environmentsafe. we have to true cellular detoxâ„¢â starting at the cellular level. get the stuff out ofthe body. it’s different for heavy metals, the biotoxin, so we have to know.phil:i’m assuming— dr. pompa:a little history will show whatthe cause is. phil:if somebody were to ask me—why don’tyou ask me what’s the most important thing i learned?dr. pompa:what’s the most important thing,
phil?phil:i don’t know. no, that’s a good question. the most important thing is that you haveto take ownership of your power to get well. because as long as you’re expecting someoneelse to do it for you, people will take from you.they will make money at your expense, and you will not get well. but it’s that willingnessto say, once i learn, i’m going to do. dr. pompa:yeah.phil:because it’s all up to me. so first you need the education, but once you havethe education, you’ve got to say it’s in your court.dr. pompa:i can say this to you, folks, especially as a last thing. you don’t need anothertreatment. and obviously, you don’t need
another doctor. you actually—you need someonewho’s been through this, and understands true cellular detox™ for what you’re goingthrough, and coaches you through the process because you have to learn the process. youlearned the process, phil. you learned the process on how to make a home safe. you learnedthe process how to test for mold. you learned the process of how to get it out of your bodyfrom the cell. you learned the process. i tell my doctors this all the time. you haveto teach and coach the patient the process that they need to do and continue to do toget their life back. one more treatment is not the answer. one more supplement is notthe answer, one more medication, definitely not the answer. there’s a process. you getcoached. you learn it. that’s how we got
our lives back. that’s how you’ll getyour life back. so stay tuned next week because we’re goingto talk about how to make homes safe. and if we can get phil back on next week, i thinkit would be good. warren:morning, guys.dr. pompa:and warren will be here too. warren just stepped in. but yeah, so we’re actuallyin warren’s home, but yeah, we’re going to do that show. and i think it’s goingto be a great show because we all learn how to make our environment safe, which is partof r1. we learned this process of true cellular detox™. you know what? so we’re goingto teach you what we learned to make your environment safe.and by the way, this show is for everybody.
not even just the very sick because a safeenvironment is the key to having health, and we have to get rid of those toxins in ourlives. so make sure you stay tuned. we’ll see you then.
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